The Vatican Has Fallen

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  1. Jarg

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    It is true that God may want to send us a Destroyer, not so that some go into schism, but to test our faith and our trust in Him, as well as to allow the anti-Church inside the Church to be revealed. I believe Pope Benedict spoke about this while pope in one of his cathechesis, its referred to as the mystery of inquity...
     
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    If he does proceed with the correction on his own, he may be excommunicated by the Pope or interdicted at the least - that is probably holding him back.

    Also maybe he may have truly discenered in God’s presence that the thing to do now is pray, wait and trust...
     
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    Yes, the Pope's the Pope.

    But he's a bad, bad man.

    But he's still the Pope.

    We must obey him.
     
  4. SgCatholic

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    I try to get around this by saying "I pray for the pope's good and holy intentions" regardless of what the pope's intention for the month is. ;)
    Hoping that it's acceptable to our Lord in view of the difficulties with this papacy.
     
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    Maybe those 65 million Chinese Catholics will be destroyed first and then it'll be our turn
     
  6. padraig

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    Yes I love Cardinal Burke. A very, very holy man . I assume good intent.

    But let's face t, if he hasn't pressed the button by now , let's face it he isn't going to press the button.

    I am not judging him on this but really , it was all so much hot air...

    what difference did it all make..?
     
  7. Fatima

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    While this is true, I find it interesting that to my knowledge, I am not aware of any credible prophecies that speak of a bad pope to come. The closest messages to this are from Pedro Regis who has redundantly said, "stay with the true magisterium of the church". We do know of the False Prophet who could be an antipope, but this is not Pope Francis, as he is a valid pope. He surely could make it easy for the False Prophet however, as he has fomented and allowed the false teachings going on today.
     
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    Yes, to reveal or lift the veil and IMO to refine many. If we do that which is asked of us we will receive that which was promised. If we do much more than is asked how much greater will our rewards be? How much more pleased will the Father be in us? We must aim for Sainthood no matter how badly we fall short.
    These difficulties we are facing are an enormous opportunity for each and every one of us.
     
  9. padraig

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    I think there is a Prophetic Danger, not intended by the Holy Spirit of providing a specific Pope as , 'False'.

    That is not God's intention.

    Nevertheless here is, I believe a prophetic desrciption of the current Pomtiifcate

    https://veritas-vincit-internationa...atherine-emmerichs-prophecy-on-the-two-popes/
     
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    My mother once told me that the only thing she ever won in her life was a Rosary
    I think it might have been in a raffle
    It’s hysterical
    That’s kind of what we are experiencing now
    Lol
     
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    Me too, I like him very much and I have worried for him, he is in a not so nice situation and can use our prayers. He must feel very alone right now.
     
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    October 1, 1820
    The Church is in great danger. We must pray so that the Pope may not leave Rome; countless evils would result if he did. They are now demanding something from him. The Protestant doctrine and that of the schismatic Greeks are to spread everywhere. I now see that in this place (Rome) the (Catholic) Church is being so cleverly undermined, that there hardly remain a hundred or so priests who have not been deceived. They all work for destruction, even the clergy. A great devastation is now near at hand.”

    “In those days Faith will fall very low and it will be preserved in some places only.”

    “The Little Black Man in Rome, whom I see so often, has many working for him without their clearly knowing for what end. He has his agents in the New Black Church also. If the Pope leaves Rome, the enemies of the Church will get the upper hand. I see the Little Black Man in his own country committing many thefts and falsifying things generally. Religion is there so skillfully undermined and stifled that there are scarcely 100 faithful priests. I cannot say how it is, but I see fog and darkness increasing … All must be rebuilt soon; for everyone, even ecclesiastics, are laboring to destroy (and) ruin is at hand. The 2 enemies of the Church who have lost their accomplice are firmly resolved to destroy the pious and learned men that stand in their way…”

    October 4, 1820
    “When I saw the Church of St Peter in ruins and the manner in which so many of the clergy were themselves busy at this work of destruction – none of them wishing to do it openly in front of the others – I was in such distress that I cried out to Jesus with all my might, imploring His mercy. Then I saw before me the Heavenly Spouse, and He spoke to me for a long time…He said, among other things, that this translation of the Church from one place to another meant that she would seem to be in complete decline. But she would rise again; even if there remained but one Catholic, the Church would conquer again because she does not rest on human counsels and intelligence. It was shown to me that there were almost no Christians left in the old acceptation of the word.”

    October 7, 1820
    “As I was going through Rome with St. Francis and the other saint, we saw a great palace engulfed in flames from top to bottom. I was very much afraid that the occupants would be burned to death because no one came forward to put out the fire. As we came nearer, however, the fire abated and we saw the blackened building. We went through a number of magnificent rooms (untouched by the fire), and we finally reached the Pope. He was sitting in the dark and slept in a large arm-chair. He was very ill and weak; he could no longer walk. The ecclesiastics in the inner circle looked insincere and lacking in zeal; I did not like them. I told the Pope of the bishops who are to be appointed soon. I told him also that he must not leave Rome. If he did so, it would be chaos. He thought that the evil was inevitable and that he should leave in order to save many things beside himself. He was very much inclined to leave Rome, and he was insistently urged to do so. The Pope is still attached to the things of this earth in many ways…”

    “The Church is completely isolated and as if completely deserted. It seems that everyone is running away. Everywhere I see great misery, hatred, treason, rancor, confusion and utter blindness. O city! O city! What is threatening thee? The storm is coming, do be watchful!…”
     
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    June 1, 1821
    “Among the strangest things that I saw, were long processions of bishops. Their thoughts and utterances were made known to me through images issuing from their mouths. Their faults towards religion were shown by external deformities. A few had only a body, with a dark cloud of fog instead of a head. Others had only a head, their bodies and hearts were like thick vapors. Some were lame; others were paralytics; others were asleep or staggering. I saw what I believe to be nearly all the bishops of the world, but only a small number were perfectly sound. I also saw the Holy Father – God-fearing and prayerful. Nothing left to be desired in his appearance, but he was weakened by old age and by much suffering. His head was lolling from side to side, and it dropped onto his chest as if he was falling asleep He often fainted and seemed to be dying. But when he was praying, he was often comforted by apparitions from Heaven. Then, his head was erect, but as soon as it dropped again onto his chest, I saw a number of people looking quickly right and left, that is, in the direction of the world…”

    “Then I saw that everything pertaining to Protestantism was gradually gaining the upper hand, and the Catholic religion fell into complete decadence. Most priests were lured by the glittering but false knowledge of young school-teachers, and they all contributed to the work of destruction. In those days, Faith will fall very low, and it will be preserved in some places only, in a few cottages and in a few families which God has protected from disasters and wars…”

    1820-1821
    “I also saw the various regions of the earth. My Guide (Jesus) named Europe and pointing to a small and sandy region, He uttered these words: ‘Here is Prussia (East Germany), the enemy.’ Then He showed me another place, to the north, and He said: ‘This is Moskva, the land of Moscow, bringing many evils’.”

    “I see many excommunicated ecclesiastics who do not seem to be concerned about it, nor even aware of it. Yet, they are (ipso factor) excommunicated whenever they cooperated to [sic] enterprises, enter into associations, and embrace opinions on which an anathema has been cast[i.e. become Freemasons]. It can be seen thereby that God ratifies the decrees, orders, and interdictions issued by the Head of the Church, and that He keeps them in force even though men show no concern for them, reject them, or laugh them to scorn.”

    April 22, 1823
    “I saw that many pastors allowed themselves to be taken up with ideas that were dangerous to the Church. They were building a great, strange, and extravagant Church. Everyone was to be admitted in it in order to be united and have equal rights: Evangelicals, Catholics sects of every description. Such was to be the new Church…But God had other designs…”

    “I see that when the Second Coming of Christ approaches, a bad priest[Francis] will do much harm to the Church. When the time of the reign of Antichrist is near, a false religion will appear which will be opposed to the unity of God and His Church. This will cause the greatest schism the world has ever known. The nearer the time of the end, the more the darkness of Satan will spread on earth, the greater will be the number of the children of corruption, and the number of the just will correspondingly diminish…”

    “They built a large, singular, extravagant church which was to embrace all creeds with equal rights: Evangelicals, Catholics, and all denominations, a true communion of the unholy with one shepherd and one flock. There was to be a Pope, a salaried Pope, without possessions. All was made ready, many things finished; but, in place of an altar, were only abomination and desolation. Such was the new church to be, and it was for it that he had set fire to the old one; but God designed otherwise….”

    “I came to the Church of Peter and Paul (Rome) and saw a dark world of distress, confusion, and corruption, through which shone countless graces from thousands of saints who there repose…”

    “I saw the fatal consequences of this counterfeit church: I saw it increase; I saw heretics of all kinds flocking to the city. I saw the ever-increasing tepidity of the clergy, the circle of darkness ever widening…”

    “Again I saw in the midst of these disasters the twelve new Apostles laboring in different countries, unknown to one another, each receiving streams of living water from on high They all did the same work. They know not whence they received their tasks; but as soon as one was finished, another was ready for them…”

    “The Jews shall return to Palestine, and become Christians toward the end of the world.”

    October 22, 1822
    “Very bad times will come when non-Catholics will lead many people astray. A great confusion will result. I saw the battle also. The enemies were far more numerous, but the small army of the faithful cut down whole rows of enemy soldiers. During the battle, the Blessed Virgin stood on a hill, wearing a suit armor. It was a terrible war. At the end, only a few fighters for the just cause survived, but the victory was theirs…”

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    The Church is in great danger. We must pray so that the Pope may not leave Rome; countless evils would result if he did. They are now demanding something from him. The Protestant doctrine and that of the schismatic Greeks are to spread everywhere. I now see that in this place (Rome) the (Catholic) Church is being so cleverly undermined, that there hardly remain a hundred or so priests who have not been deceived. They all work for destruction, even the clergy. A great devastation is now near at hand.”

    “In those days Faith will fall very low and it will be preserved in some places only.”
     
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    I now see that in this place (Rome) the (Catholic) Church is being so cleverly undermined, that there hardly remain a hundred or so priests who have not been deceived.
     
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    This is exactly, exactly what is happening at the minute. Cardinals, Bishops, priests all falling like pin balls.

    '...there hardly remain a hundred or so priests who have not been deceived. '
     
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    Is this Anne Catherine Emmerich?
     
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    I know there have been some who have been concerned over the writings of Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich because she was so sick her visions were written down by a man by the name of Brentano, but I have always thought if God can keep the universe in place he can protect a few important scraps of paper from adulteration if he wants to. To me many of her prophecies seem so accurate I cannot think that it is mere coincidence...
     

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