As far as I know, Medjugorje has not been a source for a conflict between the USA and Russia. All Our Lady said was that Russia would glorify her most. But she also said this at Fatima. She did not express this in the context of conflict with the USA.
The brewing fight between the USA and N Korea/China is separate. It's nothing to do with Russia, Fatima or Medjugorje.
The Times today reports (disapprovingly, of course - 'Hardline Catholic Rebels (sic) Challenge Pope's Marital Reform) of a conference to be held in Rome on Saturday organised by two Italian Catholic (ain't that the truth!) newspapers and financed by grassroots Catholic (ditto) associations and to be addressed by six leading Catholic laypeople. 'Anna Silva, a scholar of the early Church who teaches at the Catholic University of Melbourne is one of the speakers. She said that she believes that the consensus of the faithful supported the dissenting Cardinals and said, 'Criticism that the faction is 'disloyal' to the Pope already pre-empts the question in terms designed to shut down any discussion. It is a tactic of intimidation. The Church does not need these toxic games of intimidation and venal politics. The question rather concerns loyalty to the unbroken tradition and teaching of the Lord, the Apostles and the Church through 2,000 years to say nothing of the express confirmation of that teaching by the previous two Popes'. Send a bottle to that lady's table!
Amen and amen!!! Why is it only lay people are willing to speak these obvious Truths, loudly and boldly? Thank heavens regular MOG members now recognize this for what it is at a 3 to 1 ratio.
At our Good Friday service, I had the most amazing feeling of peace and consolation....similar to what I felt when I was baptized, but on a smaller scale. When they were reading the passion, I was wondering how many people who were sitting there that night would run away, and how many would stay with Jesus if the crucifixion was now. Then I was having images run through my mind of people running all over and bombs falling from the sky, but I still felt peaceful.
Once again we go through another period of so-called prophecies with dates. Again, wrong. There were calls earlier this year or late last year on this board which said without a doubt that Good Friday 17 was the date. Plus all the other above. How do you know a prophecy is wrong? There is a date attached to it. Fatmia the exception of course, because it was legitimate. The end could be near, the end could be 800 years from now. Every time thinks they are in the end. I know my parents thought the 60s under JFK then 80s under Reagan were the end. Nope, we are still here. Lots of saber rattling. But in the end, not many people want to die, and they all know if they launch the first nuke, it likely takes them out too within the hour. Things are bad. If something happened in the next week it would not shock me. At the same time if nothing happened in my lifetime it would not shock me either. Ok, maybe that would shock me a little.
Im thinking things will probably unfold this year or in next few. And future generations will look back and think what a bunch of useless people we were for not reading the signs through approved prophecy.
Our Lord could be described in modernist terms as a 'Hardline Catholic Rebel'. His obstinacy put Him on His Cross. God Bless Anna Silva.
"But of this one thing be not ignorant, my beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." 2 Peter 3:8. "For a thousand years in thy sight are as yesterday, which is past. And as a watch in the night." Psalm 90:4. Not saying you're wrong, not by any means. But we can't know, and there's the conditionalism of prophesy to be taken into account. How many people are praying? How many prayers are needed? Let's do just that and pray, and trust the rest to Christ.
Stick with approved private revelation: you'll never be disappointed. The approved private revelation of Saint Faustina includes a message from Jesus Christ that sometime before the last day the lights in the heavens will be extinguished and a great cross of light will appear. I'd put more stock in this or similiar approved private revelations than the unapproved private revelations at Garabandal and Medjugorje.
Totally agree, even though I have a pull towards Garabandal, I'm with you on the above comment. Look to Akita as it's said Fatima and Akita are basically the same. Overall really we should just be prepared refer to the Bible and pray.
I agree. In 2010, Pope Benedict prayed for the hastening of the arrival of the centenary of Fatima's apparitions. He must surely have read the real 3rd secret and knows more than us. He concluded with the prayer, “May the seven years which separate us from the centenary of the apparitions hasten the fulfillment of the prophecy of the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of May, to the glory of the Most Holy Trinity.” http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...sion-not-complete-pope-declares-on-solemnity/
As we are passing into the "twilight" of another Eastertide with many folks disappointed that "Something BIG" didn't occur and scrambling for the next prophecy or prediction or what worse could possibly emanate from the Vatican or Diocese ....... it might do us good to "get back to basics" like Romans 10! That message even more simply put by St Faustina's Vision and The Lord's request for the Divine Mercy Painting and statement: " Jesus, I trust in You". HeartLight Daily Verse - 18 April Romans 10:9-10: 9 For if thou confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him up from the dead, thou shalt be saved.10 For, with the heart, we believe unto justice; but, with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation. Thoughts on today's verse: Imagine Jesus being proud of you! He said if we confess him before others here on earth, he will speak up for us in heaven. Confessing that Jesus is Lord is simply acknowledging the truth. But for believers, it is more than that, since at the close of time every knee will bow and every tongue confess his name. For us, confessing Jesus is anticipating his triumph in which we will share. Prayer: Mighty God, your Son is my Lord. I love him and praise him for his redeeming sacrifice. I thank him for his conquest of the grave. I marvel at his sacrificial and triumphant grace. Jesus is Lord. I know it sounds sweet in your ears so I say it again, Jesus is my Lord. Thank you for being so great that you would be so sacrificial. Through my Lord and Savior I offer this thanks. Amen. Visit heartlight.org for more GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
Breaking news via email from Mirna Nazzour of Soufanieh: After 16 years, the holy Icon of Soufanieh dropped again Holy Oil and this on last Sunday, Eastern ! The photo's below are some private photo's they took at their home.
You know Crewdog I often think of kibeho when I think of our future. And Our Lady said at that time of her apparitions there that this was a warning for the world as what was about to happen there could happen anywhere. The Kibeho apparitions are a Catholic Church approved apparition! The religious pandemonium that engulfed Kibeho began on November 28, 1981, when Alphonsine Mumureke, a 16-year-old student at the local teacher’s training college, claimed the Virgin Mary had come to her in the school cafeteria. Two months later, fellow student Mukamazimpaka reported a similar experience. And, again, two months after that, Marie Claire Mukangango made a similar claim. Soon the town was flooded with Rwandans and foreigners eager to observe the supernatural occurrences. The girls would disclose the arranged time for the Virgin Mary’s next appearance, and the media would set up speakers around the campus center where they would broadcast the messages relayed by the visionaries to the thousands who were gathered. Observers hoping for a sprinkle of holiness dragged jerry cans of water from a small river nearby and brought it to the girls to be blessed. They’d douse their homes or give it to the sick. “When she [Mukamazimpaka] finished receiving messages she’d fall down, and it was Mary saying goodbye,” Ruhinguka remembers. Now 50 years old, Mukamazimpaka is wearing a muted dress and sunglasses as she makes her way to the church from the village center on an April afternoon, pausing to reminisce about her visions of 30-odd years ago. She describes the events with a serene demeanor and soft but rapid speech. “I can’t tell why, but she herself decided to come here and she decided to choose three of us.” The girls relayed her messages to pray, love one another, and seek redemption to the community. Mukamazimpaka would sit for five hours staring straight at the sun. She would go 14 days without eating or drinking. “It’s like you get very powerful, become very strong, and you feel very happy to see her in front of you,” she remembers. The two other girls would do similarly impossible stunts. But nine months after the Virgin Mary’s first apparition, they received a disturbing visit. On August 15, 1982, Mary appeared with a foreboding message. “When she came she was crying and says, ‘The world’s not very good and killing will happen in this country,’” Mukamazimpaka remembers. “Twelve years later it happened and we saw everything.” She repeats, “When she came on that day, she was crying.” A few days after this fateful visit, each visionary reported seeing images of rivers of blood and headless corpses. According to genocide survivor and author Immaculée Ilibagiza, Alphonsine Mumureke, started screaming to the gathered crowd of 20,000, "'I see a river of blood! What does that mean? No, please! Why did you show me so much blood? Show me a clear stream of water, not this river of blood!” And then, “Why are those people killing each other? Why do they chop each other?" Inside the memorial, Ruhinguka, clad in work boots and a long-sleeve polo shirt, stands surrounded by bones, twirling the keys in one hand and gripping a guestbook in the other. He reveals that he was a survivor of the massacre that took place in the church just a few yards behind him. “We didn’t believe in what she was saying, but when it happened, we said, ‘She was right.’” When the killing in Rwanda began, people from across the province streamed to Kibeho because it was the largest church in the region. “We thought no one could come here because it was a holy place,” Ruhinguka says. It’s a common thread in the genocide narrative—the persecuted sought refuge in the country’s churches, only to find that the clergy just stood by or actively participated in their slaughter. During the national genocide commemoration in early April, President Paul Kagame charged that Belgian officials and the Catholic Church were complicit in fostering an environment of animosity that led to the genocide. In Kibeho, a similar tale played out as the church became a killing ground. (Bishop Augustin Misago, who oversaw Kibeho’s diocese and the apparitions, was later tried and acquitted of genocidal crimes.) On April 13, 1994, a group of the Hutu Interahamwe, including police, soldiers, and civilians, arrived in the town to weed out the Tutsi population. The church, a school, and the surrounding area were attacked, and the church was lit on fire. In a claim fitting for a man from this village, Ruhinguka attributes his survival to a miracle. After the massacre, he says, the genocidaires made Kibeho their base from which they carried out exterminations. The area was part of the French-led Operation Turquoise, a mission to control and protect the area, but nothing was done to halt the carnage in Kibeho. The French soldiers arrived to the village the day after the massacre, Ruhinguka says, and they protected the killers. “They didn’t touch them.” NINA STROCHLIC The tragedy was, many thought, just as the visionaries had predicted more than a decade earlier. “When the killing started, I said, ‘This is the time of killing, and the Mother was announcing this a long time ago,’” Mukamazimpaka says. “She said if you don't love each other, if you don’t change your mind, this is what will happen,” says Father Norbert Nsengiyumva, a man with a wide-smile and brightly patterned shirt who serves as one of the town’s priests. “People didn't believe in that, but they realized that it was true when it happened.” The church massacre wasn’t the end of Kibeho’s suffering. In 1995, almost one year later to the day, Rwanda’s holy city was once again the site of bloodshed. After rebels from the Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) halted the genocide, Hutus, including genocidaires and others responsible for the carnage, assembled a large refugee camp in the village, fearing reprisal from the Tutsi liberators. Despite the presence of Australian and African peacekeepers, an RPF slaughter left an estimated 2,000 to 4,000 refugees dead, many of them innocent civilians and children. Before the visions started in 1981, Kibeho was a normal village, Father Norbert says, leaning back in his chair in a small room in front of the priests’ quarters. Once word of the apparitions spread, visitors began to come from all corners of the world. Soon, the apparitions had become contagious, with more than 30 boys and girls in Kibeho and the surrounding villages reporting visions of the Virgin Mary. The flood of holy appearances, including reports of visits from Jesus, bred suspicion from observers and even religious authorities. “Human beings can’t explain what was going on,” Father Norbert says. So, a few months after the first sighting, two commissions were formed to investigate the claims and messages of eight of the visionaries that were deemed the most authentic; one committee was comprised of doctors and the other of theologians. The medical team literally poked and prodded the girls while they were in trances, seeing if physical pain could wake them. The theologians checked the messages against established church beliefs.
Continued... The official inquiries ended in 1989, but their findings weren’t released until 2001, when Bishop Misago announced a "declaration on the definitive judgment," asserting that, “Yes, the Virgin Mary appeared at Kibeho on November 28th, 1981 and in the months that followed.” His decision applied only to the three women who reported the first apparitions and was based on their mental health, the content of their messages, and “the frightening visions of August 15th, 1982, which proved to be prophetic due to the human dramas in Rwanda and throughout the country of the Great Lake region in recent years.” In 2006, to mark the 25th anniversary of the visions, Bishop Misago said, "Today we can say that the Rwandan tragedy was predicted, but I remember that on August 15, 1982, on the feast of the Assumption, instead of seeing a joyful Virgin, the seers witnessed terrible, frightening visions of corpses bleeding profusely, abandoned on the hills without burial. Nobody knew what these horrifying images meant.” Marie Claire Mukangango was killed in the church. Alphonsine Mumureke left in 1994 during the genocide and never came back. But Mukamazimpaka, on what she says was an order from the Virgin Mary, has stayed in Kibeho, except for two years during the genocide when she was ordered to leave by the bishop. Today, she lives in a small one-story house on the church grounds, directly across from the dormitory where she received her first private apparition. The dormitory has since been converted into a small chapel, filled with polished wooden stools and a statue of Mary in the corner. In the middle of the courtyard, where the public apparitions took place, a large shrine is encircled by benches. We must Pray!
2029 people, I'm tellin' ya! We were told in black and white by sister Lucy to look towards what happened to the King of France as a warning. The King of France was deposed 100 years to the day from the date the consecration of France to the Sacred Heart was requested. The Immaculate Heart seems to be following the same timeline. The Sacred Heart and Immaculate Heart are, after all, bound together. The apparition where the request for the Consecration of Russia was made was to Sister Lucy in Tuy Spain on June 13th 1929. 100 years from the date the Consecration of Russia was requested is on June 13th 2029. I know a lot of people think all of these things will happen amazingly fast, but the severity and duration of the Chastisement are supposed to be in accordance with how well we responded to the warnings of Our Lady at Her apparitions. Does anyone really think the Church and the world has responded? Does the Church promote Fatima, the Rosary, The First Five Saturdays, The Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart, The Miraculous Medal, The Scapular? Does it even mention them? Ever? Hardly, except a nod now and then. Maybe a stray priest here and there does, but as an organization they have not heeded Our Lady's requests (Nor have we). And let's face it are these really requests? I think they are mandates. If God tells you to do something you darned well better do it, especially if you have discerned it is true, which the Church did with Fatima. Fatima even has it's own official Feast Day in the Church calendar (May 13th). The buildup and events of World War I and II lasted many years. I think those were just dry runs for what is going to happen in the Chastisement. I think we are in the Garden now. The betrayal from within is happening, but I think the Church will hang on the Cross for a decade or two. There is a lot prophetically still to happen. A slow buildup to the Three Days of Darkness.
Yup!! The 20th Century was filled with so much horror/terror that I believe that we became numb! Not long before Rwanda there was the Cambodian Genocide that most have forgotten about! In the early stage of that atrocity, I was only a couple of hundred miles away in Thailand. Pol Pot and gang probably, on a percentage of population basis, killed more citizens than any tyrant in history. http://endgenocide.org/learn/past-genocides/the-cambodian-genocide/ We don't need anymore SIGNS or History Lessons! Time to Pray, Prepare and Watch! Something EVIL is Unfolding before our eyes .. NOW!! ....... Divine Mercy Sunday is coming. GOD SAVE ALL HERE!! View attachment 6356
