Charlie Johnston.

I don't support Hamas, Garabandal. Why do you keep insisting I do?
I detest the taking of life and the hurting of the innocents...
I support freedom, fairness, love, our lords children...the poor children of these lands. Perhaps it just might be you that is blinkered. Just PERHAPS.....

 

I don't support Hamas, Garabandal. Why do you keep insisting I do?
I detest the taking of life and the hurting of the innocents...
I support freedom, fairness, love, our lords children...the poor children of these lands. Perhaps it just might be you that is blinkered. Just PERHAPS.....

 

Why do all your perspectives support Israels right to kill!
All killing is wrong wrong wrong.
I don't know how else to say it!

 

I give up. I'm off to bed. I'll pray that we both might see things from our lords perspective

 

You haven't even mentioned the children ...not once.
That's so sad.
God bless you

 

Now wait a minute, you are mincing my words. The small issue is the avatar itself, what I am hinting to is the fact that if 2 members of a catholic website can't have a conversation about what it means to them then there is no help for the world. I totally understand what you are saying but I am saying it is careless to throw out your comment about his avatar without approaching him first to say what that statement means to you and not to find out exactly what it means to him. The point I am making is that no one can really defend him but himself because no one really knows what his thoughts are. I am not defending him but I am not going to assume anything by it that is all.

 

I agree with your sentiments.

Israel does itself no favours with its policies in the Gaza strip which are outrageous.

Nevertheless, there are factions and groups primarily Islamist who attack Israel on a daily basis. Israel has a right to defend itself against such attacks.

You need to ask why Israel is a military superpower.

Because it is surrounded by enemies who want to annihilate it off the face of the earth.

 

...its late Carol. I love a good debate. But it's almost midnight. I'm up at 7. Good night and God bless you. As with my friend Garabandal, we will have to agree to disagree.

 

This is definitely my last post, its super power ONLY because the US made it a super power. Otherwise it would not be.

Good night

 

Sorry Jack on this occasion you are blinded by your own prejudice.

I have made it clear I do not support the indiscriminate killing of any people including children. Read my posts again and you will see that.

I have also stated that Israeli policy is wrong in Gaza.

When I post the truth about the Hamas rocket attacks on Israel (based on Amnesty International) you conveniently ignore the reality of these attacks.

There is wrong perpetrated on both sides.

But according to your perpsective it is all one way traffic.

Good Night!

 

Again you are putting words in my mouth.

I did not say nor ever have said that you supported Hamas.

I just pointed out the reality of this terrorist organisation in its policy of attacking Israel.

I don't think I am blinkered because I take a balanced view of the conflict in the Middle East and don't buy into the prejudice of the mainstream media as I do my own research on things. I do not agree with much of Israeli domestic policy especially in Gaza.

But neither do I ignore the fact that Israel is surrounded by enemies and is under daily attack from Islamic extremists.

It is the latter that many ignore who have an in-built bias against the Israeli State.

Time for bed!

 

I used to feel the same way as you about Israel, and I'm still far from being their biggest fan. I think, however, that we never get the whole story about what goes on there. The Israelis have a hard, no nonsense attitude to self defence and their own security, much of it rooted in their determination to never again let themselves be subject to genocide. I won't go into the rights and wrongs of the setting up of the State of Israel because there was wrongdoing on all sides that can't be undone now. The Palestinians are particularly unfortunate because they are used like a football by powers in the region - not just the Israelis - with groups like Hamas being controlled from outside. While the Palestinians do have legitimate grievances (and, yes, the Israeli response is often disproportionate to what they see as terrorism) there's something cruel and heartless on the part of groups supposedly fighting for their freedom when they launch missiles at Israel from heavily populated civilian areas in the full knowledge that the same civilians will be the victims of the inevitable response from Israel. In other words, they know they will get pictures like the one you posted to drum up anti-Israel support particularly on university campuses in the West. I don't know whether it is peculiar to Islam, but Islamic extremists seem to have a habit of using women and children as human shields. There will be a real chance for a peaceful solution in Palestine when it suits outsiders like Qatar and Saudi but it won't happen until the Palestinians stop letting themselves be manipulated.

That said, I have no strong feelings about Charlie. I certainly wouldn't give him any donations and wouldn't put myself out to attend any of his gatherings. At least in his case we don't have to wait to find out whether some secret will be revealed when the moon and jupiter are in alignment with some unknown planet or when the invisible ink becomes visible or some other prophecy keeping us in a perpetual state of suspense and expectation. I would be interested, however, in seeing more informative replies to the questions raised by Harper - replies that don't accuse her of stalking or having a vendetta against him. It shouldn't be all that difficult for Charlie to tell people what newspaper he worked for, on what school board he served as president, etc. Perhaps he exaggerated a little but so what if he did.....lots of people exaggerate and exaggeration doesn't necessarily mean lying. The matter of priests hearing confession at one of his gatherings could be explained by the priests having been given permission by the local bishop. That's also something that should be easy enough for Charlie to explain.

 

Let me interrupt the Mideast War for a minute with a post on... Charlie Johnston!

Just saw this and wanted to share. In the original, the boldface words in the second paragraph are highlighted in yellow. I don't know why the color didn't transfer.

Someone named Joe posted this at Charlie's site and called it to his attention. Charlie gave Omaha's warning his own personal spin --they got it wrong!!--which you can read at Charlie's site. Charlie insists: Whoever wrote the article for your diocesan newspaper put the worst possible spin they could without venturing into outright falsehood.

Poor Joe, who is he to believe, his own lyin' archdiocese, or some prophet on the internet?

Edited to add: I know this sounds sarcastic, but at some point you have to ask why Charlie casts himself as the victim so frequently. He's claiming his content was never restricted, which is true but disingenuous, since his content was not studied at that time. Anyway... the Archdiocese of Omaha thought it important enough to send out to its email list...




Alleged visionary Charlie Johnston is scheduled to speak Oct. 1 at Elkhorn High School
Mr. Johnston claims to have received visions and messages from the Blessed Mother, the Archangel Gabriel and other saints since he was a child. He is known to make public predictions about future events, issuing warnings of worldwide civil war, cancellation of the 2016 U.S. presidential election and a claim that President Barack Obama will not finish his second term. Last year, he also wrote a two-part series on his blog detailing instructions on how to respond if the U.S. government were to begin rounding up conservative Christians and other citizens into detention camps. According to Johnston, God has appointed him to guide Americans through this turmoil to a rescue that will come in late 2017, when the Immaculate Heart of Mary will visibly save the world.

Mr. Johnston’s alleged visions and messages have not been approved, sanctioned, or endorsed by the Church. The Catholic faithful in the Archdiocese of Omaha should approach his appearance with an appropriate level of caution and should continue to place their hope and security in Jesus Christ through the sacraments and the Scriptures.

: http://us12.campaign-archive1.com/?u=335332b58bd4d41fdbc327a17&id=e91e1eb696&e=4eeb4e1561

 

I am not a debater. I think that you were just the straw that broke the camel's back for me tonight and I apologize for that. I am not a Charlie supporter per se but I have grown weary of all of the shots that he has been getting here. I hope that you do reach out to him to at least make the suggestion to change his avatar and see what he says.

Right after the 9/11/01 attacks some people in my country claimed that we deserved it for supporting the Israeli government for so many years. I thought really? So that is the citizen's fault? And those people who died that day, they are the ones that should have to pay for this? Then of course, we have funded the other side also. So this is all about what? Oil? Control? Money? Power? All of it? And the innocent citizens are just casualties (in the US, in the Middle East and now in Europe too)? I wish that I had the solution.

I don't think that we disagree. Maybe Charlie will have a good explanation or he will change it.

God bless you also.

 

Simple answer: no. This manufactured political structure has only cause untold misery and death

 

Israel is in Gods hands...and God wanted the Jews to control land for the final days. Many miracles took place for this to happen. As for the harsh treatment against the muslims...it is biblical. They are following the Torah. Also, the muslims only understand one thing strength. If you give a inch they take a mile. Look what Iran has done with the United States. The u.s. has given so much but they still ridicule us, threaten to destroy us, attack our military and continue to do what they want. As long as the muslims continue to state and act for the total annihilating of Israel. The Israelis have a right to defend themselves. If the muslims would stop the suicide bombing and rockets...the war would be over.

Israelis are still Gods people. They will see our Messiah when He comes back in the clouds.

May Gods Will be Done.

 

Funny, Israel never had oil. But i do think they recently found a oil reserve. And the barren land is turning fruitful like God predicted.

 

Yes, the Jews are the apple of God's eye and God did promise them the land. Nevertheless, there was wrongdoing on all sides before, during and after the setting up of the State of Israel. Let's not forget that people like Ben Gurion were once regarded as terrorists. Might is right tends to be the unspoken motto in international relations. Yes, the US has given much. It has also interfered much, often to protect US interests. And the instigators of that ridicule are often US allies who fund and arm the terrorists with US weapons which probably explains why Gulf states not officially at war tend to be the biggest customers for military hardware. Apart from having God's promise to fall back on, the Israelis also have the advantage of being united in their goals to defend their national interests while the Palestinians are easily manipulated by outside influences. The entire business is tragic, not least for the Christians whose plight has always been ignored.

They will indeed see our Messiah as will the Muslims. I wonder how pleased is God at his chosen people's embracing of anti-life and anti-family values. Truth be told, I reckon that God is none too pleased with any of us.

Anyway, we're way off topic. Did those priests get permission to hear Confession at Charlie's gathering, or were they Catholic priests? I suppose they could have been SSPX or one of those breakaway groups that the Pope has said can hear confession. Perhaps they wouldn't need permission from the Bishop.

 

It is way too much late to do anything about it since Israel was founded in 1948.

It is here to stay.

When we look at maps even 40 years ago it is amazing the changes on a Geo-political scale.

There have been many manufactured political structures over the centuries and I live in one N.Ireland!

Some see Israel as a source of misery others as a bulwark against Islamic domination of the Middle East.

Anti-Zionist Muslims consider the State of Israel as an intrusion into what many Muslims consider to be Dar-al-Islam, a domain rightfully, and permanently, ruled only by Muslims due the fact it was historically conquered in the name of Islam.

 

From the purely human perspective the existence of the state of Israel is absurd. However, like fallen saint I can't help but discern the hand of God working in all this. I remember listening to a Francis hogan tappe years ago and she made reference to the state of Israel in relation to Jesus' parable about the fig tree. For her it is a clear sign and herald of the times we live in.