Charlie Johnston.

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  1. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    Following all the discussion it seems appropriate to post Charlie's latest summary of his prophetic position:

    The Election…and Other Potential Triggers
    Posted on August 28, 2016 by charliej373
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    By Charlie Johnston

    Lately I have gotten all sorts of notes and comments that begin, “You say there will be no election…” I have been explaining all year that there could be an election, but it would not ultimately matter.

    What I was told in the Spring of 2008 was that Barack Obama would win that year’s election, that he would not finish his full term, and that the next stable national leader would not come from the political system. I understand why people would figure that meant there would be no election this year. It is the most obvious scenario, but it is not the only scenario in which it would fit. There could be an election in which things explode after the election, but before an inauguration. In another scenario, President Obama could assume emergency powers and extend his term indefinitely, in which case it would end abruptly with the coup that would inevitably follow. There are a few other exotic scenarios, but it is not important to list them. The key is that many folks have zeroed into the most likely scenario as being the only possible scenario. Specific messages are not given so that you know the mind of God, but to alert you to watch and wait – that when you see events that match with the message given – whether in the way you expect or in an unexpected way – to see the spiritual reality behind those temporal events. It is a mile marker on God’s unfolding plan, not a roadmap.

    I have told you two things that are definitive: that after Barack Obama failed to finish his full term the next stable national leader would not come from the political system and that the Rescue will come late in 2017 after all have lost hope. Hope WILL be an act of the will then, so you must gird your loins for the time when there is no cause for hope other than your faith – and your faith must be much more than a fluffy, comforting emotion when that time comes. I did NOT tell you about the fractured transfer of power coming so you would know the mind of God and confidently espouse details of His secret plan. I told you almost solely so that when it happens, whether in the way you expect or in a different way that matches the specific message I have conveyed, it will give you confidence that I have told you true concerning the Rescue. As society crumbles ever more frantically, you are really going to need that assurance then to fortify yourself for the rest of the Storm. But you are still going to have to CHOOSE faith. It all comes down to choosing. God does not allow us the luxury of being spectators or judges this time around. We must be determined participants in the Rescue or be washed away with the tide of accelerating events.

    A strange thing has been happening this year. Secular officials have been unobtrusively coming to my presentations and privately introducing themselves afterwards: judges, prosecutors, military officers, public administrators, doctors, aides to legislators. I would mention financial and economic officials, but they have been here since near the start. Privately, rare is the week when I don’t hear from some old secular colleague telling me with some wonder that I have been right all along, then asking what should they do. (My answer is well-worn: acknowledge God, take the next right step, and be a sign of hope – but I generally expand a bit on how to do that in their particular circumstances). At the same time, a few of those who greeted me with early hope are shaken because things have not played out quite as they expected. Some are even blinded to the visible unraveling of all the social safeguards because of their expectation (and sometimes quiet hope) that all would be in ashes by now. I understand. I have my own expectations, too. I was taught a long time ago, though, that my expectations would kill me: that I, too, was not to be privy to the fullness of the mind of God. So I deal with those things that are given clearly, interpret as best I can those that are not, and am rarely disturbed when something that is not given clearly plays out in a different way than I expected.

    Right now, we are not traversing a field that has a landmine in it; we are trying to traverse a densely populated minefield. Throughout the world, China, Russia, North Korea, ISIS, Iran (just to name a few) have murderously aggressive designs. (For those who note that I say Russia will end up being America’s most steadfast ally in the final stages of the Storm, it WILL be, but it is not yet. It might have already been if America had not become so irresponsibly feckless and unreliable. Like every other entity, it is trying to find its way to survive in a visibly collapsing world order). The primary purpose of national governments seems to have becoming protecting thugs from the police, rather than protecting people from thugs. That never ends well. One of the triggers that not one in a thousand really understands is the cushion America gets by holding the dollar as the world’s default currency. Since most global debts are issued in dollars, America can get away with printing money that has no relation to productivity or reality. But the dollar did not become the default currency by divine right. It became the default currency because, for the last century and a half, it was the most stable currency in the world – and officials of both parties took great pains not to venture into extreme currency manipulation so as not to forfeit that status. Now, the United States has become to currency what it has become to allies; entirely unreliable. China, in particular, has for the last five or six years been courting other nations to dump the dollar as the default currency. The biggest assault yet to try to get the dollar dumped will happen later next week. If the dollar ceased to be the default currency, you could see things tank within a day. It certainly would not be more than a few weeks before crash was complete. Imagine if you got up one morning and all your credit and debit cards were cancelled and, oh, by the way, your cash is no good either. That is about what it would mean if the dollar ceased to be the default currency – only for everyone, not just for you.

    If it happens, the election itself could become a triggering event. A few weeks back, President Obama mused that he could have accepted a victory by a John McCain or a Mitt Romney, but he just could not accept a victory by Donald Trump. What does that mean? Is it just random musing or laying groundwork? If Trump won, particularly if he won handily, it would expose that, despite the collaboration of media and academia, the anti-God left had lost control of the country. Despite that, Obama and the left have defied the law with impunity almost throughout his term with a few yelps of opposition, but no effective resistance from the right. It could trigger that often talked about, but very rare, genuine false flag event to justify the assumption of emergency powers. And then we are in the whirlwind.

    This is the Year of Mercy. So long as there is one more righteous man that can be squeezed from these ominous events, God restrains the full fury of the Storm. I pray that collapse comes before the end of the Year of Mercy, for that way, people will be able to find their way back to God fairly easily even after the collapse. It is going to be a brutally hard path back for those who are still given over to vanity and wickedness after the Year of Mercy ends.

    It has been an eventful roller coaster of a year throughout the world. But this next year is going to make it look, by comparison, like a drive through the flat prairies of the American Midwest. I have never told you the things I have in order that you would know how what must happen will happen, but in an effort to exhort you to choose to trust and follow God. You do that by the ordinary way of acknowledging Him, taking the next right step, and being a sign of hope to those around you – by doing the little that you can that is right in front of you. I did not tell you about the disrupted transfer of power ahead so you would know the mind of God, but as a sign to exhort and encourage you to choose trust in Him and the ordinary way, to fortify you for the fearful year leading up to Rescue.. When it happens, if you take it as evidence that you have figured things out, you will faint in terror early on – for whatever your expectations, much of them will be dramatically wrong. You must choose to trust your heavenly Father like a child through this horrible year. Nothing less will suffice.

    If, next January, Barack Obama peacefully hands over the reins of power to Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, I will declare myself unreliable and go away. But it will not happen that way, for God has appointed that this be a sign to you to fortify you to trust Him and choose the ordinary way to follow Him through the most frightening year for the globe in history. I appeal to you to quit trying to flatter yourself that you have figured out how God is going to accomplish this, for that way leads to destruction. Trust Him and follow Him whatever happens.

    I have told you true.

    https://charliej373.wordpress.com/2016/08/28/the-election-and-other-potential-triggers/
     
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  2. John Rowley

    John Rowley New Member

    I find Charlie's site very compelling because we do not have to wait long for his prophesy to be tested. I am impatient so my patience will not be strained.
    I have read that the American dollar is the world's default currency and holds this place becuuse of its gold reserves.
    It was suggested that if China can show reserves higher than those of America then its currency will take over. Perhaps China and Russia will combine in this endeavour.
    After all, the great enemy of Communism is Capitalism.
    Over recent times China has gradually admitted to having more gold reserves than previously disclosed. Is the great reveal at hand?
     
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  3. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    I would follow crewdog :)


    Now i will

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  4. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    I have given CJ's prophecy little thought and this may be a matter of semantics, but if CJ was told the Obama would not finish his FULL term then in my opinion he needs to leave office before the 4 years are up. If CJ was told that Obama would not finish his term then his 2nd idea of an emergency would fit, otherwise no.

    We will all know soon enough and whatever happens it won't change my opinion of CJ, good guy. I do hope that, as he states, he is willing to admit defeat if so be it.
     
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  5. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    He's laying his cards down face-up on the table here.

    All will be revealed (or not) come next January, at the latest.
     
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  6. Well then it looks like Charlie is following along with all the many other geo-political prognosticators/watchers/observers and positing the same type of possibilities that "could" take place in the various scenarios he gives as well as these others. That's certainly not prophecy....rather like "adjustments" as time goes by while witnessing all the many surrounding human responses. For instance, anyone paying even the slightest attention now for probably going on all the years since 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq and the "prophecy" of JPII calling that decision "the beginning of the beginning", has seen oodles of predictions that those in power have the goal to create chaos, from local to regional to worldwide ..... economically, legally, religiously, socially, racially, morally....and would use that means to instigate some form of grand societal control....like martial law with reason to take over for the benefit of some NWO/elitist totalitarian rule. Join all of these obvious real world current disturbances, created on purpose, with Church Satanic/Masonic/Illuminati smoke thrown in the mix for decades and with full knowledge by such as Malachi Martin, JPI, JPII, Paul VI, Benedict, add in the deliberate power and territorial (w/state secrets) handed over by the Obama/Clinton regime to those desirous of using the chaos as well for the great Caliphate joined with the power hungry and territorial motives of Communist/Atheistic systems for the sake of energy control in the Middle East, and certainly people don't need someone else reading the very same signs/tea leaves now to come up with any kind of a possibility for man made peaceful solutions. It's been past that threshold for years.

    The thing is, if one has a stable foundational understanding of what has been truly prophesied by Church accepted mystics, apparition sites, and messengers as well as scripture itself and the early Church Fathers, one understands that the future is far more dire and due a true purification with the "worldwide" correction of conscience than just rearranging the chairs on the Titanic as any solution to the now visualized approach of the massive unhoped-for iceberg (now perhaps involving a cosmic monster's approach). Perhaps that reality getting closer is why those "original" simpler pronouncements, somewhat shaky even in their original prognostications, are now becoming more "tailored" with more "possibilities" to cover the earlier more defined expectations. And it does appear that persons that were drawn to those simpler original definitions or speculations have themselves become stuck in the bog of attachment to what had seemed easier to expect and now must also finding rationales for those original but conveniently flexible and fungible outlines of the future like "perhaps he just meant this" or "maybe he was only thinking about a more limited time", etc. Only human nature. After all, has anyone NOT hoped for something of resolution to occur after the 100 years granted to Satan.....or....not have been told that all would recognize, in the end, that indeed Her Immaculate Heart would triumph? It's just that what was stipulated to be done in order to have that intervention/end to take place is so easily explained away by those who would like to convince you that they "know better" than God's own outline and stated requirements....and so now even that declared certainty that Russia has been consecrated (you're just vain and stubborn to hold any other thought out conclusion, esp. if it's based on the documented orders coming under the title "unless" you do thus and so) even in the face of worsening Church and world conditions is also now being unfaithfully stretched to cover or "fit" what is being witnessed in the world and in the Church. Perhaps there is a new type of "quasi" prophecy these days in order to fit in with all the other "progressive" movements. Today, why nothing has to fit into anything as definitive as Akita, Fatima, such Vatican CIA types as Malachi Martin or even the most experienced of exorcists who are directly connected with the demons' intentions and manipulations of those "willing" to be influenced to believe in an easier, more comfortable hope. Just sayin_'!!
     
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  7. Malachi

    Malachi Powers

    I like that you mention Father Malachi. Indeed one only has to listen to some of his interviews over thirty years ago to see how accurate where his analyses of the path ahead. He of course had the added advantage of having read the third secret and was thus in a unique position to comment on both the ecclesiological and geo political elements of what the future would betoken.

    For me Charlie has been helpful in reminding us of the primacy of trust in God come what may. I do however think that his purportrd catalogue of predictions when examined in light of catholic prophecy, tradition, mystics and of course Malachi's extensive research and analysis offers us nothing new.

    What is unique to Charlie is that he has predicted the triumph late next year, though I am sure many Catholics with any sense of the importance of Fatima realise the significance of the centenary of this event, and unlike other self professed mystics has boldly stated that if the American political system does not unravel by Christmas or there abouts he is outta there.

    He did however mention some years ago that Christmas 13 would be the last normal Christmas until after the rescue. When he was called out on this he responded with a convoluted and not very convincing defense that diminished some what his credibility for many.

    Nevertheless, I think he is a genuinely good and humble man who has put his not inconsiderable talents at the disposal of many who I am sure have benefited greatly from the Central core of his mission TNRS and all that goes with that.

    He also has a grat sense of humor and razor sharp wit which I quite enjoy.
     
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  8. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Two excellent posts above, from earthtoangels and Malachi. I think both are right in their contrasting interpretations, given that we lack sufficient data for a conclusive decision. Until January...

    I don't doubt Charlie's good character, but fear that his predictions might be too good to be true. It is natural to wish to believe it, but...
     
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  9. I remember listening to Fr. Malachi's interviews right after my conversion, a little over a year ago, and really liking them but thinking that he was off on the part about people being farmed for body parts...well, I listened to them again after planned parenthood and my blood ran cold.

    Looking at where Europe was before WWI it's amazing that things have sunk this far this fast. Praying that the Devil's 100 years end in 2017.
     
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  10. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Yeah. It could be Charlies last normal Christmas.

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  11. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Amen!
     
  12. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    Malachi, a very insightful and charitable post. Thank you.
     
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  13. FreshEggs

    FreshEggs New Member

    I'm only going to say this: if I compare Charlie against St. Faustina and Sr. Mary Mildred Neuzil, there's no question as to who is more credible, based on their character alone.
     
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  14. Harper

    Harper Guest

    Charlie's latest post is actually disturbing. Charlie says he is not angry. He says people who question him are angry; some of those who raise questions about him are maliciously angry. (Not doubters like St. Thomas, but malicious.) But he sounds hair-on-fire angry.

    I haven't looked at Charlie's comments section for a while. It's a fever swamp. He is "papa Charlie" to one poster. Another poster begs him to be more patient with his followers, explaining that she/they (mere mortals?) haven't had as much time as Charlie to get used to all the important things he knows and is telling them. The pleading tone of that. Yikes!

    Charlie's latest:

    I know I have become notably less indulgent of some discernment questions. That is not because I am angry, but simply because the focus has shifted to action. I have submitted myself to examination – first with my Director Priests over the last 21 years, then writing publicly on these things, and then before my Archbishop. I remain under obedience to my Directors and my Archbishop. If you want to weigh my words, they are all right here, in the archives.

    Some questions now are a restless effort to discredit me, motivated perhaps by disappointment or anger that those who hold actual authority over me did not restrict my content. Other questions are muddled because they misquote my actual words, quoting instead the interpretive overlay of someone’s selective perception of those words. Still other questions fixate on some ancillary issue that is only marginally related to the overall thrust. Finally, some few questions are legitimate. Even so, little of it matters. You have more than enough material to judge whether I tell you true, whether I am fundamentally authentic - or not.

    We hear, like cannons in the distance, the sound of a completely unraveling social order. Sometimes now that sound is not distant at all. Without deleting anything of what I have said, I have moved from informing the troops to rallying those troops for action. You may, in good conscience, find I am not your cup of tea. You may, in malicious anger, seek to discredit me, either because you think I am wrong or you fear I am right. Regardless, that is no longer my primary concern...

    I wonder if Charlie will stop scanning the internet and popping up on websites to answer critics.
     
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  15. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Charlie has to weather his own storm. This is normal, for a prophet, who has been given such a great mission. Humility is the answer... not anger. Time is short.

    If you are talking to God, why would you care what others thought.

    It's not easy being a prophet. If it was easy...everyone would do it.
    :(

    May Gods Will be Done
     
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  16. CrewDog

    CrewDog Guest

    If there is anyone angry here, Harper, it appears to be YOU!! I'll say again! What's your "Real Beef" with Charlie ... Eh!!?? If you don't like him or his message .... Don't Read it! .... or are you simply not believing that Planet Earth is teetering on the edge of the "Abyss"? As Bro Al has pointed out above, "Watchmen on the Wall" have had a hard way to go as many don't want to hear about the coming "Deluge" ... just as in the Days of Noah!

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
     
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  17. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    If anyone wants another watchman on the wall to beef about, have a read of John Martinez latest contemplation. It sounds so on board with what Charlie J is saying as far as I can make out.

    Yes, there's loads of meaty treats for critics in John Martinez latest contemplation. Go feast while there is still time.
     
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  18. CrewDog

    CrewDog Guest

    Deacon John's latest here:
    http://afterthewarning.com/messages...of-awakening-15th-personal-contemplation.aspx

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
     
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    Barb H New Member

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  20. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

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