Charlie Johnston.

OG, If Biden was to become president because of Obama resigning, wouldn't he simply finish Obama's 2nd term and who ever is elected in November would be sworn in on 1/20/17?

 

Hmmm....so you think the Warning and Miracle are still a possibility for this May? I guess anything is possible!

 

Who said this May? If that Stellarium program that many people have used to a determine when the signs in the sky that are spoken of in Revelation 12 is accurate, possible within a year but I wonder about that program and then again there are all of these other things occurring that seem to be pointing to the events occurring soon. ????

 

Yes---if they followed all the rules as written, however, I have a feeling that if Russia invaded Europe, the Dow crashed and/or other chaos happened---there would be calls for implementing some kind of emergency measures, at least temporarily...who knows. I'm certainly not forecasting this scenario, only using it as an example of how quickly things could spiral out of normalcy.

 

N---I'm not going anywhere near forecasting anything, especially in the case of Garabandal. Conchita and the other Garabandal seers were asked by the BVM to keep the dates of the Warning & Miracle secret, that is , not to publicize them in advance. She had some good reason for requesting this. In my opinion, efforts to 'discover', or logically deduce or somehow figure out these dates in advance, with an intent to inform others beforehand, directly contravenes the will of the BVM! She clearly wants the dates to stay secret. Does anyone want to be on the side that is contravening the will of the BVM...? Not me....instead stay perpetually prepared & put your trust in God...

 

It occurred to me that perhaps the 15 year old Israeli boy (Natan) with his NDE last fall (posted on this thread) and Charlie may have pieces of the puzzle. Charlie speaks of Obama not fulfilling his presidency and no election in 2016. Natan, in his NDE vision, has Obama in the Middle East and WW3 breaks out. Obama (as Gog) wages war against Israel and leads the other 70 United Nations (UN) against them. Obama dies and is buried there. Natan say's he was shown WW3 to last 2 weeks. Israeli Defense Force (IDF) last 2 day's and is overthrown. Natan said, when pressed for the timing of all this last fall that it would be "soon" in "months".

If Natan's NDE visions come to fruition, so does Charlies revelation that Obama does not end his presidency. Keep an eye on Obama's middle east trips in 2016. Hmmmmm.

 

Yes, but after the collective sin this country has committed, solidified as of last night, we may look back in years to come and think that would have been the lesser of 3 evils. I am embarrassed for our country and, as a teacher, for our abominable education system that precluded people from reading and understanding what they read before voting. Or, maybe I should be embarrassed at so-called pro-life conservatives who are anything but.

 

I'm not certain why my comment got the Homer crazy picture? hmmm.

Charlie's and Natan's prophecies could both work out if Obama was to be found out to have strong ties to some Middle East country and he left office ashamed and then became the "president" of that Middle East country and then started the war with Israel and because of this happening the US citizens don't show up to elect the next president in fear that they don't know what they're getting. Or there is no election for quite awhile because we would need to have a huge investigation. And now I deserve the Homer crazy picture.

PS - But Obama would have to live for a thousand years or do we believe that Satan has been bound for a thousand years already - NO.
Rev20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle.
If only I was a bible scholar then I could remember all of this.

Isn't this Gog/Magog discussion a distraction from what is really going on? I know that the bible is extremely difficult to interpret but how can this battle occur soon? Someone help me out please.
I think that I posted somewhere that by funding Iran I can see Obama's involvement but this cannot occur yet or we are very close to the end of time (not end of times).

 

..... or a scenario where BO resigns late this year to accept the office of UN Secretary General.
I don't think BO is the antichrist but like most godless Liberal Left (Democrat) Politicians and those that "Vote Them In" ...... he/they are, at least, satan's useful idiots!

GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC & ALL HERE!!
PS: Below is another article that demonstrates the Mind of The Left and why the USA is most probably, without Divine Intervention, long past the Point of No Return

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2016/the-left-replaces-rule-of-law-with-rule-of-politics

 

I originally thought the Natan's vision may be of BO as UN Sec Gen but then I realized that Gog/Magog should still be way off. I think this was the devil's doing, I mean Natan's NDE. It just doesn't fit with scripture unless someone can explain it to me.
When in doubt I try my best to fit a prophecy with scripture, at least when the prophecy is something big.
The bible warns us of false prophets, I think the reason is because the devil is an antagonist...


Here is another possible scenario for Charlie's prophecy about Obama and the US election. It seems that Hillary's private email server was hacked. So charges may be brought up on Hillary and the democrats will want to postpone the election because she will be incarcerated (?). In addition, maybe there is some information on Obama floating around in an email which leads to him being impeached.
http://gawker.com/hacker-guccifer-claims-he-broke-into-hillary-clintons-e-1774786170
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...email-case/ar-BBsEigN?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=UE07DHP

 

This election is unpredictable in every conceivable way....nothing like it in my lifetime....very devisive even among those who profess to share the same faith. All that is in our control going forward is prayer. Giving it to God. Politically, He's allowing us our free will to be in command and the consequences will be on the people as well.

What a time is this....

 

It was regarding this post:OG, If Biden was to become president because of Obama resigning, wouldn't he simply finish Obama's 2nd term and who ever is elected in November would be sworn in on 1/20/17?

 

Sorry, I still don't get your point unless you mean you are not looking forward to either Hillary or Donald (neither am I).

 

Obama would have to remain in the position as President if he is to act officially in some way that would be THE move to incite the nations to begin their general aggression.....both Putin into Europe with the Russian Communism takeover.....and nations that have been longing to obliterate Israel to gather via the UN most likely and attack. I believe that Natan spoke only to the destruction of Israel as taking only 2 weeks due to just too many nations to defend against. He alluded to similar attacks and destruction elsewhere in order to suggest something taking place in various places throughout the world but didn't give a time table for that larger "war" to be completed. I would think the other invasions may take some months before they're interrupted by the Warning. IF the Pope does make a trip to Moscow in August as rumored to be in the works/planned and that European invasion beginning immediately afterwards, then there could be a period of around 3 months or so, before the Warning IF the positioning of the Sacred Astonomer's signs in the sky do spell out a time period in Nov. for the Warning. If not around that time then you're extending that happening into 2018. Obama then, still as President, could make a trip to Israel to continue his influence in the Middle East (since he will be recognized as the instigator of that short war), taking a "victory lap" so to speak for the takeover of Israel, and then get Natan's "surprise" for him/Gog!! Could the fact that, as Natan suggested, it is God Himself who takes down Gog, could that take down be via the Warning in which it has been stated that one of its effects will be some people dying due to the consequences of seeing themselves as God sees them. One could only imagine just what painful picture of himself Mr. Obama would have to endure. Just speculative scenarios.

 

In Charlie's latest presentation he includes his own chosen topic entitled: "After the Rescue". So I was expecting some factual description of what he had personally been given within his prophetic experiences. It seemed though that there was only one paragraph that even entered into the title and it presented, to my way of reception, another kind of generalization, quite uncomplicated compared to the myriad discussions on this forum of much more detail and questioning based on saints, mystics, approved as well as yet unapproved helps, that have been given I think to aid us in preparation for a far more difficult, to say the least, time. So I suppose you can throw away all of that concern and just accept this much simpler scenario:

Charlie:

the worst of the Storm is only about as long as I am used to for a full campaign cycle. I could do that standing on my head...And then, we will have helped usher in a world where my children will live most of their lives and my grandchildren nearly all of their lives. It is a world where people know that God IS, where they care for each other as a matter of course, where they try to cover each others foibles rather than expose each other’s nakedness. If I live faith for just a little longer, my children, my grandchildren, and their children for generations to come will call me and all who participated in preparing the way for the Rescue blessed.

So, simple. No real need to fret. After the "rescue" then that's it. A new time begins and yet that one doesn't sound like any Era of supernatural quality like actually living in the Divine Will even better than that garden of our first parents with all of those preternatural gifts and completely new "type" of "environment" with a new light, et al after passing the test of the entire purification of the world. No fulfillment then of that perfect prayer, the Our Father, the accomplishment of which is beyond what most understand as they've repeated those words over and over for centuries. It almost sounds like a world very similar to certain kinds of communities already contained within the current era.

But then Charlie offers this advice for those thinking about anything "that" different from the status quo:

Sometimes people get carried away into mystical fantasies about the world after the Rescue. I counter that by describing it as being kind of like Mayberry (from the old Andy Griffith show), a world where it is natural for people to care for and help each other, to put up with each other’s quirks, and to build each other up. As I often say, we don’t get heaven until we actually get…heaven. God is not changing the laws of physics or anything else, but transforming us.

Well, I don't quite understand just how God will "intend" this new supernatural kind of light or new concepts of time without, at least to our understanding within our current parameters of science, "changing" those "laws of physics or anything else".

And there doesn't seem to be any separate periods of tribulations/chastisements in Charlie's assessment....like those coming before the Warning (universal correction at one time....which Charlie has previously said Faustina and others have just misinterpreted) and those after the Warning that include the AC and his "aping" of the Truth and all that comes with that NWO system and its effects upon the faithful....not to mention any pole shift or rearrangement/renewal of this known world. "Come Holy Spirit....send forth your Spirit and we shall be recreated and Thou shalt renew the face of the earth". Perhaps it's there somewhere but just not worthy of any more explicit description to the people.

After a staggering intervention, everyone in the world will know that: God IS. All but the most malignantly defiant will endeavor to live as He calls us to.

So no actual purification from this world of those "most malignantly defiant"....just living still side by side...even in the New Era of living in the Divine Will? Does not compute. But I am open to any further clarification/s, yet nothing so far to work with that includes all the rest of these other things that must also come to pass in my estimation. Just saying. But then I'm sure that faithful followers will find some qualifying explanation for those differences and gaps in timing ??

 

IMHO, I think what Charlie describes is exactly what I would expect after the Warning/Illumination of Conscience. So this makes perfect sense to me. Don't you think that tribulations are occurring right now in the world? I thought you posted about Jesus's unfathomable mercy...we are all being granted another chance. I am not certain of the timeline but let's say that we have the Warning before the end of the year and then the Miracle does occur next April (I'm not taking an actual guess). Let's also say that the abomination of desolation has begun. I am also assuming that the Stellarium program is correct and we have WCWTS appearing in Nov 2016 and birthing is completed on Sept 23, 2017 (this to me represents the Eucharist coming back). Now if all of these factors that I have stated are true(?) then we will begin to see a "Rescue" in the Fall of 2017, we should have a renewal in the church, people should be going to confession more and mass more, less sinning. We will then enter a small period of peace until those that don't make this conversion (those that take the mark of the beast) destroy the peace. The AC will make his appearance some time after the Warning or the Miracle to provide that alternative path to people who still do not want to believe, those who prefer to live in sin. It may be Mayberry like for awhile but that will end.

NOTE: I am only analyzing other's predictions. And I don't agree with the large object approaching the Earth theory, I have my own theory on what the event of the Warning will be like.

Also, if Charlie is correct and Obama needs to leave office in shame, I think that will divide our country even more and we will need the Warning! - it is very sad how we still can't get along with each other (and things have gotten worse in the last 8 years). I know it sounds simplistic but honestly, God must be shaking his head at us all.

 

Earthtoangels, when reading your post, the following passages from Luisa Piccarreta's Diary came to mind:

[Jesus reveals to Luisa Piccarreta]: “to souls, We [the Trinity] first reveal that which We want to give them. It can be said that in Our desire to inhabit a place, We [first] seek [the inhabitants’] correspondence by sending them Our letters of notice. We dispatch Our messengers, making them disclose what it is We wish to offer the inhabitants; and all this in order to dispose them, to make them long for the great gift We wish to grant them. Did We not act in the same way when bringing about the Kingdom of Redemption? There were four thousand years of waiting, and the more time [for its manifestation] approached, the more pressing were the notices, the more frequent the letters, and so forth so as to dispose souls [for its arrival].

Likewise the Kingdom of My Divine Will. I will delay [in giving the gift] because I want them to be informed, to pray, to long for it to come and reign, and to comprehend the great gift it brings […] So, do not be surprised if, while seeing Me long for My Will to reign, it delays. Such are the ways of Our inscrutable wisdom that dispose everything with order, using such delays to spread its knowledge – which takes the form of the letters, telegrams, phone calls and messages that help to form the people for [the gift of Living in] My Divine Will”.

[Jesus to Luisa]: “You must know that everything has been determined by the Supreme Being – prayers, acts, pains, sighs, which the creature must do in order to obtain that which We Ourselves want to give her, and which she longs to receive. So, if these are not performed, the longed for Sun does not rise from Us in the midst of the long night of the human will, to form the day of the Kingdom of the Divine Fiat. That is why many times it happens that many acts and prayers are done, and nothing is obtained; but then, because another little sigh and prayer, one obtains what he so much longed for. Was it perhaps the last act to obtain the deed of grace? Ah, no! It was the continuation of all the acts and prayers; and if one sees that he obtains through that last act, it is because that one was needed to complete the number established by Us.”

As we wait for the hoped for release of the Critical Edition of Luisa's writings, perhaps Charlie's "Mayberry" description for the period following the Rescue will provide the final space/time needed to be "informed, to pray, to long for it to come and reign, and to comprehend the great gift it [i.e., the Fiat of Sanctification, the Kingdom of Divine Will] brings".

[Jesus to Luisa]: In the ‘Fiat of Creation’, man’s intellect remained as though enraptured. How many things he understood about Me and about My love for him who am hidden inside all created things to make myself known and to give him love so as to be loved. In the ‘Fiat of Redemption’, his memory remains as though enchanted by the excess of My love in suffering in order to help and save him in his state of sin. In the third ‘Fiat [of Sanctification]’, My love wants to display [itself] even more. I want to assail the human will: I want to uphold man’s will with My own Will, so that his human will may remain not only enraptured and enchanted, but sustained by an Eternal Will […] Human generations will not pass until My Will reigns on earth. My redeeming Fiat will place itself in the middle, between the creating Fiat and the sanctifying Fiat. All three together will interweave and accomplish the sanctification of man. The third Fiat will give so much grace to man as to restore him to his original state. And only then, when I see man as I created him, will my work be complete, and I will take up My perpetual rest in the last Fiat […] So, be attentive and together with Me, help Me to complete[ly actualize] mans’ sanctification”.

 

Just wonder if Charlie will be surprised when THE universal Warning and then the Miracle come BEFORE his "rescue" since they are not part of his scenario. Again, Faustina (and other mystics) just got those events wrong in Charlie's estimation. He didn't and doesn't believe in those major promises effecting all mankind, esp. as Faustina's or Garabandal's predictions state....at one time/major change of the world's conscience. So it would appear that such an intervention by God Himself is not necessary for his generalized "rescue" scenario.

Most people knowing about Fatima's prophecies (and Pope Leo XIII's vision) have already been expecting "something" to happen at the end of that 100 year anniversary of Fatima.....AND that other logical anniversary....of the end of the period given to Satan to cause havoc to the believers which also will end in Nov. of 2017 (end of 100 years of the Red Dragon/Russian Communism since the Bolshevik Revolution right after last apparition of Fatima). Charlie doesn't include those while others have been assuming something to occur at that time now for decades....and also believe that FINALLY the Consecration of Russia WILL have had to have taken place in order for that promised Triumph of the Immaculate Conception to even come about. Charlie still isn't certain whether that took place waaaay back in 1984 (w/as yet no great change in the world or the amount of sin....now just getting beyond even believable) or whether it's gradually taking place...or....whether it still must come!!! As I said though, people seem to be very loyal to Charlie so somehow are always ready to mix together his thoughts with other happenings which at the same time they believe in and so must somehow force both to fit together.

Meanwhile are people still praying for the Consecration of Russia when such "leaders" in many quarters of the Church have left them complacent, thinking that all that "stuff" is relegated to the past. So just how "late" will it now come to pass....as is prophesied at Fatima to occur? "It will happen but it will be late". Perhaps it will happen AFTER the Warning when the shepherds will also be awakened to their own errors of the past. But Charlie's opinions about such things put aside, such interventions must come about and first. There can be no "rescue" without repentance and such massive repentance cannot come about without God's own major intervention in the Warning as His own messengers have alerted us to....which will be His greatest offering of Mercy to the world.

 

No rescue...until second coming