The Synod has started....

. . . And like holy Father Francis, we should take on the rags of a beggar (in sprit) and pray that the Lord have mercy on us sinners. We should submit to the Holy Father, the Pope, the Vicar of Christ. We should take to road to evangelize barefoot (in humility). We should preach with our actions and when necessary use words. We should love the Lord so much that we bear his marks in own bodies. We should trust in our dear Lord whose eyes are wide open (he is not unaware) on the Byzantine Cross of San Damiano. We should trust all things to our Lady as Francis did at the Portiuncula, as St Bonaventure said in the biography of the poor man from Assisi

He embraced the Mother of Our Lord Jesus with indescribable love because, as he said, it was she who made the Lord of majesty our brother, and through her we found mercy. After Christ, he put all his trust in her and took her as his patroness for himself and his friars
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Yes . . . . this is what Francis would do were he at the synod

 

I am genuinely curious about a paragraph n the Relazione Finale of the Ordinary Synod .

The sentence, in paragraph 58 of the document, reads:

“The family, while maintaining its primary space in education (cf. Gravissimum Educationis, 3), cannot be the only place for teaching sexuality.”

My question is, why can the family not be the only place where children can learn about sexuality? I admit my ignorance but I would have thought that parents would be the ideal educators

In Familiaris Consortio Pope John Paul II taught:

“Sex education, which is a basic right and duty of parents, must always be carried out under their attentive guidance, whether at home or in educational centres chosen and controlled by them. In this regard, the Church reaffirms the law of subsidiarity, which the school is bound to observe when it cooperates in sex education, by entering into the same spirit that animates the parents.” (No. 37)

This which Pope St John Paul ii refers to as the, 'Law of Subsidiarity' and paragraph 58 appear to be at odds? This appears to suggest that home schooling in this regard is a , 'No, No?'

I might ask one of the Jesuits across the street if I can catch one, maybe they would know.

 

I am also curious about this. Givan that Catholic parents are considered insufficient to give their own children education in this regard what body or authority should they go to? Or to put it another way, who could they trust with this?

 

Well spotted Padraig. This contradicts the teaching of the Church that parents are the primary educators of their children.

2223 Parents have the first responsibility for the education of their children. They bear witness to this responsibility first bycreating a home where tenderness, forgiveness, respect, fidelity, and disinterested service are the rule. The home is well suited for education in the virtues. This requires an apprenticeship in self-denial, sound judgment, and self-mastery - the preconditions of all true freedom. Parents should teach their children to subordinate the "material and instinctual dimensions to interior and spiritual ones."31 Parents have a grave responsibility to give good example to their children. By knowing how to acknowledge their own failings to their children, parents will be better able to guide and correct them:
He who loves his son will not spare the rod. . . . He who disciplines his son will profit by him.32
Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.33

2224 The home is the natural environment for initiating a human being into solidarity and communal responsibilities. Parents should teach children to avoid the compromising and degrading influences which threaten human societies.

2225 Through the grace of the sacrament of marriage, parents receive the responsibility and privilege of evangelizing their children.

 

Pure Love

I cannot look unto the cross.
For I am unworthy to witness this awesome sight.
Yet I see the reflection so painfully clear,
On the one who watches beneath.

Silent she stands,
Eyes wide, transfixed on God before her,
Brow heavy, straining ears catching the last words He speaks.
Humiliation consummate, torture ultimate.
Grief, pain, sorrow.

With hands clasped she kneels,
Blood staining her garments, pulsates from her breast.
He has died.

Nature answers this almighty event,
Light is shut out and the earth convulses,
Stars descend adorning her head.
Prostrated she lays,
Beneath her son.



So now......... I look at this pure love and again,



I watch her closely,
This one.
This one that suffers.

She bows low, as century after century,
They rip her son apart.

This agony she endures.
She crys, she begs, she exhorts her lamentations.
But fiat, is her word as she weeps

Dearest Mother of the word incarnate,
Remember us, your wretched children.
Hidden under your mantle.

This veil is our hope!
This veil is our sanctuary!

Gods Will Be done.
Give us the peace of your, Fiat.
Amen

 

I'm shocked at the massive attack launched on the church today.
Open, obvious, bold, prideful heresy.

The recently dismissed polish gay priest has said the following:
"The 43-year-old says that while the Roman Catholic clergy is "full of homosexuals", it is also "frequently violently homophobic", and he calls on "all gay cardinals, gay bishops and gay priests [to] have the courage to abandon this insensitive, unfair and brutal Church".

Dear God.
Insensitive.
Unfair.
Brutal(?!!!)

Dear God where will this end???

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34654581

 

I have not read this document but would like to understand the full context. Im assuming it intends to continue the position that parents own and should be the primary educators of their children on sexuality and even more broadly faith. Parents cannot and should not be forced to abducate this right and responsibility. Having said that, I can tell you from first hand experience as a CCD teacher of 7th and 8th graders fir msny years, Catholic parents have indeed abdicated this responsibility and are ill-formed to teach their children the Church's teaching on human sexuality. Or worse, they teach the opposite of what the Church teaches. This situation is now spreading into 2 and some cases 3 generations of Catholics who do not know or are against Church teaching. It's horrendous. This to me us the bigger issue here.

 

You are absolutely correct in this Padraig. I watched another commentators video about the very paragraph you cited. It is a deviation from what the Church teaches. This is only one of several items that are very wrong in this document.

 

I don't know what the background of this paragraph is about, but it doesn't shock me because it reflects the facts of life. Parental influence is what weighs the most to small children, but there comes an age where kids & youth will naturally turn to others as part of their education (friends, teachers, extended family, community) and that's an important part of their development. It takes a village to raise a child.

Would you want to learn everything in life only from your parents?

Having said this, I'd like to know if this statement is made for a different reason.

 

I disagree that "It takes a village" to raise a child. I believe it takes a family to do that. In fact I wouldn't want the village instructors of today anywhere near my children.

I am not sure what your last line was getting at.

 

I don't want today's village to do it either, nor even everyone in my extended family for that matter, but that doesn't change what I think kids need, which is to be part of a family (the family is the heart obviously), but with the extended family, the tribe, the village that would in the ideal world, reinforce the same values as in the family, especially at the age where kids are more out there in the world. Unless we live as hermits deep in the woods, kids naturally get influences and education from outside the family. The problem today is that the village is messed up.

What I mean is the same thing as Padraig said....I would like to understand what the basis is for the statement in paragraph 58.

 

If only they would abandon it.

 

As I hear/read all the angst and turmoil over the Synod, News or alleged words of this Holy Joe/Jane or prelate I can't help but believe that getting back to basics might be a smart move as the below verse for today suggests:

Heartlight Daily Verse - 28 October - 1 Peter 1:24-25

All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord stands forever.
Thoughts on today's verse:
As the seasons change, the leaves fall, and the grass dies, we are reminded once again of how short our lives are. Despite the rapid advancements of technology, our deepest needs are addressed only by the eternal and proven will of God in Scripture. Whether you get your Scripture off the Bible on disk or from an old family Bible, access it today. Don't you need a dose of the eternal today?
Prayer:
As I age, I am constantly reminded, O God, of my transitory stay on earth and your eternal reign in heaven. Give me a sense of my place before you as I seek your will in your Word. In Jesus name I pray. Amen.
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GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

 

"It takes a village".... "global warming"... Charlie Johnston was right, this pope is just hitting his stride. For me , it is more like total confusion, just like voting for a RINO (republican in name only) here in the US. I am not sure what the church teaches any more.

 

The Catechism is still Catholic Truth and Binding upon ALL of us.

This Synod is non binding, its advisory only !

Stop taking account of the winds... Let Peter speak, in his time, not ours.

 

I sometimes feel out of my depth writing about subjects like this, for what do I know, for I have no children myself and so know little enough about the subject.

But maybe I could throw two cents worth on general principles.

Firstly there is a huge difference between Doctrine and Pastoral Appraoches. It is at the very centre of our Faith that we should be obedient to Doctrine. I see and recognise that there has been no attempt at changing Doctrine at the Synod so that's fine anyway.

Pastoral Approaches to such things as the Education of Children is another matter and I don;t think it makes me a bad person to want to discuss this.

I am sixty years old in a couple of weeks time and have seen huge changes over the course of my lifetime. One of the biggest is the removal of freddoms for what has been termed the, 'Protection of Freedoms'. So what I can say, where I can go , what I can believe in has been very much restricted from what it was when I was a young man. Terms like politcal correctedness have become a form of Societal Tyranny in my opinion.

It seems to me one of the arch signs of a Liberal is seek to restrict freedoms for the, 'Sake of Freedom'. In other wards to be heavily Paternalistic.

One of the many reasons why I have delighted in being a Catholic is the Freedom to be be myself. , in that the Church by its very existence rebelled in so many ways from the increasing tyranny around us.

Or to put it another way, I guess I am a dyed in the wool Conservative as my father was before me. I love individual Freedoms and despise increasing Governmental and pseudo-cultural encroachment in what makes us essentially Free humans.

Now it seems to me that saying that parents are not competant to educate their own children is a part of that enroachment. in other words this is the construct of the very same Liberal minds who seek to put us in shackles for our own good.

For instance the very first thing any Socailist Government will do is to take enducation into its own hands, 'For our own good'.

Perhaps I am wrong about all this, but it just makes me uneasy and I thought I had to say so.

I am very uneasy. I hope folks don't think this makes me a bad Catholic, but there you are. It had to be said.

 

Padraig
I am waiting to see what the final document says. I am concerned about this as we currently have the government here trying to introduce gender ideology into primary schools as part of anti bullying campaign. Catholic schools seem to be getting away with ignoring it at the minute. We really need the church to be strong on the parents being the primary educators. Much prayer needed.

 

The republican house, led by "catholics" John Boehner and Paul Ryan have just passed a two year budget deal with the democrats effectively endorsing Hillary Clinton for president. I see the same thing in our church leadership, 50% of whom voted for the baby murdering Obama, with this "it takes a village" bull.... Another sellout of the faithful in process, a sure sign of masonic infiltration.

 

This getting scarry ! a non binding document on the Church suggest others outside of the Faith can teach sex education...so we interpret, govt schools teach gay lifestyles and the synod is saying yes to this ? Can anyone give our Church the benefit of the doubt? I know some are tiered of this line.... but its TRUE!
Persevere till the END folks !

 

RINOS are not protected by the prayer of our Lord...only Peter